Carter: "Bush backs [Gestapo-esque] TORTURE".... US has "LOST THE SUPPORT and TRUST and ADMIRATION" we have had for decades....
WHY CAN'T our Democrat "LEADERS" STAND UP and OPPOSE George W. Bush's mad, obssessive fixation with Gestapo-esque TORTURE?? What SUCCESSES can Mr. Bush point to in his ever-expanding wars.. besides the "success" of getting the US Congress to approve of and finance his EVER EXPANDING WARS?
Almost everyone agrees that TORTURE is COUNTER-PRODUCTIVE: the Clinton administration TRACKED, TARGETED, CAPTURED, and CONVICTED Sheik Omar Abdel-Rahman within a year of the 1993 World Trade Center Tower bombings, and in 1998 - THREE YEARS BEFORE the Bush Administration DID NOTHING to make an Al Qaida hijacking attack on America more difficult (NOT EVEN A General_Traveller's_Advisory, that would have alerted aircrews, the FAA, and American passengers to the potential of a threat) - the Clinton administration SUCCEEDED in CONVICTING Ramzi Yousef of conspiracy... WITHOUT, as far as we can tell, ANY RESORT TO TORTURE.
The Bush administration, in its PATHOLOGICAL DISDAIN of 'anything Clinton,' has BOTCHED the capture and arrest of Osama bin Laden, has created MILLIONS of enemies for America in the manner that the US/UN rescue operation in Somalia inexplicably led to Mogadishu residents coming to hate the US Rangers/Delta (on a much smaller scale than Mr. Bush's administration has created enemies for America worldwide); Mr. Bush and his team of INCOMPETENTS has FAILED (or, worse, REFUSED) to prosecute the FINANCIERS of 9-11, has FAILED to get any prosecutions for the ANTHRAX ATTACKS on the US GOVERNMENT that "piggy-backed" within days on the terror of 9-11... and STILL the Bush admin. recklessly claims that THEY, and ONLY THEY, know how to prosecute the 'war on terror."
The Democrat's abject failure to CONFRONT Mr. Bush on his SERIAL FAILURES and INCOMPETENCE, and now Gestapo-esque fascination with TORTURE, is amazing to behold: George Orwell's book "Animal House" with the dictator pig using his ferocious dogs to cow any resistance - come-to-life in OUR OWN late, great, former democracy, the United States of America.
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Clinton administration SUCCESSFULLY TRACKS, ARRESTS, and PROSECUTES 1993 World Trade Center bombers..... WITHOUT RESTORT TO TORTURE:
<< In October 1995, the militant Islamist and blind cleric Sheik Omar Abdel-Rahman, who preached at mosques in Brooklyn and Jersey City, was sentenced to life imprisonment for masterminding the bombing [in 1993 of New York's World Trade Center towers using an underground-parking truck bomb]. Rahman, whose Islamic Group organization is believed to have had links to Osama Bin Laden's al-Qaeda network, was later CONVICTED with a number of others of conspiracy charges to bomb several New York City landmarks (see New York City landmark bomb plot). In 1998, Ramzi Yousef, said by some to have been the real mastermind, was CONVICTED of "seditious conspiracy" to bomb the towers. When Ramzi Yousef was brought back to America, he was flown over the still intact twin towers, making a statement to the FBI that he regretted not having enough explosives to bring down the WTC towers and adding that his fellow terrorists WOULD TRY AGAIN to destroy them. One of the other men tried alongside Yousef for the bombing was Eyad Ismail. In all, ten militant Islamist conspirators – including Ramzi Yousef – WERE CONVICTED for their part in the bombing and were given prison sentences of a maximum of 240 years each. >>
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Trade_Center_bombing
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Carter says Bush backs torture, SHRINKS U.S. INFLUENCE
Mon Sep 18, 2006 3:55 PM ET
http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=newsOne&storyID=2006-09-18T195516Z_01_N18292469_RTRUKOC_0_US-CARTER.xml&WTmodLoc=Home-C2-TopNews-newsOne-6
By John Whitesides, Political Correspondent
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Former U.S. President Jimmy Carter said on Monday the Bush administration had eroded America's global influence with its conduct in Iraq and by condoning the torture of terrorism suspects.
"They have redefined torture to make it convenient for them," Carter said of the Bush administration in an interview with Reuters.
"Things that are unanimously almost or globally assumed to be torture, they claim that this is not torture. I don't think there is any doubt that is what they are doing," said Carter, a Democrat who was president from 1977 to 1981.
He has since been a leading voice on global human rights issues and won the Nobel Peace Prize in 2002.
Carter, 81, said he was "filled with admiration" for Republican Sens. John McCain and John Warner and former Secretary of State Colin Powell for their effort last week to block President George W. Bush's policies on the treatment of suspected terrorists. The White House and senators are continuing talks in search of a compromise.
"We've lost the support and trust and confidence and admiration that we've had for generations," Carter said, adding the administration "has stonewalled so they can continue to perpetrate this illegal punishment."
"They have obviously subverted facts, that has been proven, and subversion of the law is now becoming more and more apparent," he said, referring to the administration's repeated appeals of court rulings concerning the treatment and legal rights of prisoners at the Guantanamo prison in Cuba.
CARTER SEES AMERICA LESS SAFE
Carter, who has called treatment of detainees at Guantanamo an embarrassment and disgrace, said Americans were less safe since September 11 because Bush mishandled the Iraq war and failed to promote peace efforts between Israel and Palestinians.
Those two factors, he said, "combined to stir up additional animosity and threats of violence not only against us but against allies like Great Britain."
Carter, who is serving as the honorary chairman of Democrats Abroad, said in the telephone interview from his home in Plains, Georgia, that he would encourage Democrats overseas to vote in November, when the party must pick up six Senate seats and 15 House seats to reclaim majorities.
Republicans rejected Carter's criticism and said Bush would not change course.
"While Jimmy Carter is committed to attacking this administration's efforts to keep us safe, President Bush remains committed to waging an aggressive battle with those whose stated goal is to harm Americans," said Tracey Schmitt, a spokeswoman for the Republican National Committee.
Carter criticized Bush's approach to foreign diplomacy as the president headed to the United Nations for a general session expected to highlight by international skepticism over U.S. policies toward Iran and Iraq.
The White House has ruled out a meeting between Bush and Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, who will also address the General Assembly, and says there will be no lower-level contacts with the Iranian delegation.
"Our government now has a strange and unprecedented and pervasive policy of not speaking to anybody who doesn't agree with us in advance on controversial issues. So we close the door, we go into a closet and pout," Carter said.
"So we don't talk to Iran, we don't talk to Syria, we don't talk to the Palestinian government, we don't talk to North Korea, we don't talk to any leaders around the world who disagree with us and this is where the problems arise," he said.
Almost everyone agrees that TORTURE is COUNTER-PRODUCTIVE: the Clinton administration TRACKED, TARGETED, CAPTURED, and CONVICTED Sheik Omar Abdel-Rahman within a year of the 1993 World Trade Center Tower bombings, and in 1998 - THREE YEARS BEFORE the Bush Administration DID NOTHING to make an Al Qaida hijacking attack on America more difficult (NOT EVEN A General_Traveller's_Advisory, that would have alerted aircrews, the FAA, and American passengers to the potential of a threat) - the Clinton administration SUCCEEDED in CONVICTING Ramzi Yousef of conspiracy... WITHOUT, as far as we can tell, ANY RESORT TO TORTURE.
The Bush administration, in its PATHOLOGICAL DISDAIN of 'anything Clinton,' has BOTCHED the capture and arrest of Osama bin Laden, has created MILLIONS of enemies for America in the manner that the US/UN rescue operation in Somalia inexplicably led to Mogadishu residents coming to hate the US Rangers/Delta (on a much smaller scale than Mr. Bush's administration has created enemies for America worldwide); Mr. Bush and his team of INCOMPETENTS has FAILED (or, worse, REFUSED) to prosecute the FINANCIERS of 9-11, has FAILED to get any prosecutions for the ANTHRAX ATTACKS on the US GOVERNMENT that "piggy-backed" within days on the terror of 9-11... and STILL the Bush admin. recklessly claims that THEY, and ONLY THEY, know how to prosecute the 'war on terror."
The Democrat's abject failure to CONFRONT Mr. Bush on his SERIAL FAILURES and INCOMPETENCE, and now Gestapo-esque fascination with TORTURE, is amazing to behold: George Orwell's book "Animal House" with the dictator pig using his ferocious dogs to cow any resistance - come-to-life in OUR OWN late, great, former democracy, the United States of America.
-----------------------------------------
Clinton administration SUCCESSFULLY TRACKS, ARRESTS, and PROSECUTES 1993 World Trade Center bombers..... WITHOUT RESTORT TO TORTURE:
<< In October 1995, the militant Islamist and blind cleric Sheik Omar Abdel-Rahman, who preached at mosques in Brooklyn and Jersey City, was sentenced to life imprisonment for masterminding the bombing [in 1993 of New York's World Trade Center towers using an underground-parking truck bomb]. Rahman, whose Islamic Group organization is believed to have had links to Osama Bin Laden's al-Qaeda network, was later CONVICTED with a number of others of conspiracy charges to bomb several New York City landmarks (see New York City landmark bomb plot). In 1998, Ramzi Yousef, said by some to have been the real mastermind, was CONVICTED of "seditious conspiracy" to bomb the towers. When Ramzi Yousef was brought back to America, he was flown over the still intact twin towers, making a statement to the FBI that he regretted not having enough explosives to bring down the WTC towers and adding that his fellow terrorists WOULD TRY AGAIN to destroy them. One of the other men tried alongside Yousef for the bombing was Eyad Ismail. In all, ten militant Islamist conspirators – including Ramzi Yousef – WERE CONVICTED for their part in the bombing and were given prison sentences of a maximum of 240 years each. >>
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Trade_Center_bombing
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Carter says Bush backs torture, SHRINKS U.S. INFLUENCE
Mon Sep 18, 2006 3:55 PM ET
http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=newsOne&storyID=2006-09-18T195516Z_01_N18292469_RTRUKOC_0_US-CARTER.xml&WTmodLoc=Home-C2-TopNews-newsOne-6
By John Whitesides, Political Correspondent
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Former U.S. President Jimmy Carter said on Monday the Bush administration had eroded America's global influence with its conduct in Iraq and by condoning the torture of terrorism suspects.
"They have redefined torture to make it convenient for them," Carter said of the Bush administration in an interview with Reuters.
"Things that are unanimously almost or globally assumed to be torture, they claim that this is not torture. I don't think there is any doubt that is what they are doing," said Carter, a Democrat who was president from 1977 to 1981.
He has since been a leading voice on global human rights issues and won the Nobel Peace Prize in 2002.
Carter, 81, said he was "filled with admiration" for Republican Sens. John McCain and John Warner and former Secretary of State Colin Powell for their effort last week to block President George W. Bush's policies on the treatment of suspected terrorists. The White House and senators are continuing talks in search of a compromise.
"We've lost the support and trust and confidence and admiration that we've had for generations," Carter said, adding the administration "has stonewalled so they can continue to perpetrate this illegal punishment."
"They have obviously subverted facts, that has been proven, and subversion of the law is now becoming more and more apparent," he said, referring to the administration's repeated appeals of court rulings concerning the treatment and legal rights of prisoners at the Guantanamo prison in Cuba.
CARTER SEES AMERICA LESS SAFE
Carter, who has called treatment of detainees at Guantanamo an embarrassment and disgrace, said Americans were less safe since September 11 because Bush mishandled the Iraq war and failed to promote peace efforts between Israel and Palestinians.
Those two factors, he said, "combined to stir up additional animosity and threats of violence not only against us but against allies like Great Britain."
Carter, who is serving as the honorary chairman of Democrats Abroad, said in the telephone interview from his home in Plains, Georgia, that he would encourage Democrats overseas to vote in November, when the party must pick up six Senate seats and 15 House seats to reclaim majorities.
Republicans rejected Carter's criticism and said Bush would not change course.
"While Jimmy Carter is committed to attacking this administration's efforts to keep us safe, President Bush remains committed to waging an aggressive battle with those whose stated goal is to harm Americans," said Tracey Schmitt, a spokeswoman for the Republican National Committee.
Carter criticized Bush's approach to foreign diplomacy as the president headed to the United Nations for a general session expected to highlight by international skepticism over U.S. policies toward Iran and Iraq.
The White House has ruled out a meeting between Bush and Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, who will also address the General Assembly, and says there will be no lower-level contacts with the Iranian delegation.
"Our government now has a strange and unprecedented and pervasive policy of not speaking to anybody who doesn't agree with us in advance on controversial issues. So we close the door, we go into a closet and pout," Carter said.
"So we don't talk to Iran, we don't talk to Syria, we don't talk to the Palestinian government, we don't talk to North Korea, we don't talk to any leaders around the world who disagree with us and this is where the problems arise," he said.
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